Preaching the Koran in Scandinavia

It's not Muslims doing the preaching, however - in Norway it is a vicar, and in Sweden it is a teacher.

The first example is from Ellingsrud, Oslo:

The Oslo district Elllingsrud has faced a commotion after minister Clara Vogl of Ellingsrud's church announced that she intends to read from the Koran to school children for julgudstjänst [a traditional Scandinavian Christmas service]. Initially, the priest thought that the children themselves would read the Koran, but the reactions have been so strong that she opted instead to read from it herself.

The move has brought strong reactions from parents. They say that they will not allow this and are upset that no information was given to parents in advance, either at school or church. Elisabeth Sjølie, who has children in school, says:

I do not mind that my children may learn about Islam, but I do not accept that she must preach the Koran, without my knowing it. Would you have forced Muslim children to read from the Bible during a major Islamic festival? I think this unlikely.

She adds that she and her children will be seeking to be relieved from the Norwegian Church as she no longer feels any confidence in this institution.

I must say, I find that reaction very pleasing. Elisabeth Sjolie perfectly sums up the double standards at play here; it is always the Norwegians who must adapt and be tolerant, never the Muslims.

There is a clear difference between learning objectively about other religions and having their holy tracts preached without qualification - for I imagine Clara Vogl sits very firmly in the "Islam is a religion of peace" camp, despite all evidence to the contrary.

The second example is from Sweden:

IN Torskolans nursery group, the children heard passages from the Koran.

- And that's why Jesus' mother and father had to go to Bethlehem.

- And now let's hear what the Quran says, Helen Sandberg Heed says to the play group from Tor school that meets in the library, whilst standing over the nativity scene.

With the help of small dolls Sandberg Heed tells the kids about the similarities and differences in the stories of Jesus in the Bible and the Koran.

- We are doing this because we have Muslim children in our communities. This story illustrates our common heritage, "says Helen Sandberg Heed.

- Today it's more important to highlight the joint where everyone is only talking about contradictions.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that these people want to deconstruct traditional Swedish culture for their own ends.

Whilst some are so enthusiastic about what the Koran says, it seems fewer and fewer Swedish teachers have much time for what the Bible says - or even the cultural traditions reserved for Christmas time:

There will be no traditional julavslutning for Furubergs school children in Träslöv church - the priest wanted to say a prayer for the students, something that the school deemed "not appropriate".

"The reason is that the priest said he wants to say a prayer and a blessing over the children. We are satisfied that this is not okay," said Dan Randelid, one of the Furubergs School's two principals.

According to Randelid, the rules are clear - the school may not participate in anything with a "confessional element," and several judgments of the Schools Inspectorate confirms this. This was also the reason that the school contacted the church and the priest, Ola Bjervås, and asked if holding julavslutning in the church but without religious elements would be possible.

After Ola Bjervås declined, the school moved the entire thing to an auditorium. Perhaps the most extraordinary thing about the whole affair is the reaction of Bjervås, the vicar:

- We are very sad, not least because of the children. I can understand it, we live in a multicultural society, but it is a pity, for the reason we celebrate Christmas is based of course on Christian traditions. And it does not do children any harm.

This, I will remind you, comes from a vicar. If that half-hearted concession constitutes defending tradition, then I really don't hold out much hope for Sweden.

Hat tip: Politiskt Inkorrekt.

Norway's Response to the Stockholm Bombing

Yesterday I reported that, in accordance with Lawrence Auster's "Non-Islam Theory of Islamic Extremism," Saturday's suicide bombing in Stockholm was the fault of Britain and the British university where the Jihadi studied.

That's right; not Islam, not the Koran, not the teachings and example of the prophet Mohammed, not Sweden's mad immigration policies and insistence that everyone, everywhere is exactly the same - but Britain.

I was interested to note that the response of the Norwegian government followed a similar vein - i.e. a complete and utter refusal to stare objective reality in the face:

Knut Storberget [Norwegian Justice Minister] told newspaper Dagsavisen, for example, that Norway’s special police intelligence unit PST has received a 50 percent boost in funding and a 30 percent boost in staffing for anti-terrorism operations. “And we stand shoulder-to-shoulder with our Swedish colleagues on this,” he told reporters on Sunday.

Storberget also used the suicide bombing on a busy shopping street in downtown Stockholm, which killed the bomber but no others, as another reason why the Parliament should go along with an EU directive that would require storage of telecommunications records, to aid police in terrorism investigations.

But of course. The solution isn't a national debate about Muslim immigration, about whether mass immigration, and if so which kinds, are desirable for Sweden or Norway - no.

The solution is not spend more money on domestic anti-terror police, give the EU draconian powers, and apparently keep importing hostile aliens and throwing money at them as before.

The article continues:

There’s little doubt the bombing, the first of its kind in Scandinavia, has shaken Norwegian officials and disclosed flaws in Sweden’s own anti-terrorism operations. Questions were flying over how the perpetrator, a young Iraqi man living in Sweden who had publicly revealed increasing radicalism, had evaded police attention.

As well it might. If such things keep happening, ordinary people are going to put two and two together - there were no suicide bombings in Scandinavia before mass immigration from the Islamic world. When they do, they're going to place the blame squarely on the government.

It's a shame other questions aren't being asked about his presence in Sweden (and 400,000 or so unassimilable, alien others potentially like him) in the first place, but you can't expect miracles; no, clearly it is the job of the Swedish police to know when every young Muslim male tires of beer and blondes and becomes interested in Jihad and slaughtering infidels instead.

The best is yet to come:

Norway’s ambassador to Sweden, veteran diplomat Anna K Lund, said Sweden was now “at a crossroads” and that the bombing was viewed as “very dramatic.” Lund told newspaper Aftenposten, however, that there are differences between Swedish and Norwegian society and Sweden has experienced many more dramatic incidents than Norway.

Brynjar Lia, a researcher for the defense ministry, noted that Norwegian police have invested heavily in preventative measures, including constant dialogue with Islamic groups in Norway and with individuals. He also noted that Sweden is twice Norway’s size in terms of population, suggesting that extremists can have more room to operate.

Very dramatic, indeed. I would add that, unlike certain other dramatic incidents, this one could have easily been prevented - and not by recording everyone's phone calls.

But, as long as Norway continues its dialogue with its Muslim immigrants (I imagine that actually means making more and more apparently minor concessions in order to avoid violence), everything should be absolutely fine.

I mean, anyone who would consider doing such a thing must be completely rational and open to reason!

Just make a few points about how generous, tolerant and open Norway is, how it doesn't deserve to be attacked and everything should just work out.

How unlike Sweden it is in it's regard to prostrate itself to make others happy. Also, let's not forget that most of these immigrants are fully integrated and love having girlfriends and drinking, so they'll probably never have a problem with them anyway.

Right?

Norwegian Nurseries "Celebrating Eid Through Song"

More mind-bending tales of Dhimmitude from Islam in Europe, this one from Norway, where very young children have been asked to sing the following songs, among others, in their nursery schools:

1. Little Muslim

Little Muslim, Little Muslim,
Do you pray? Do you pray?
That I do, that I do, that I do five times a day.
One at Fajr, one at Dhuhr, Asr, Maghrib, Isha'a
One at Fajr, one at Dhuhr, Asr, Maghrib, Isha'a


2. Ten Little Muslims

One and two and three little Muslims,
Four, five and six little Muslims,
Seven and eight and nine little Muslims,
Ten little Muslims.

But hush, there was something whispering
Hush, there was something whispering
See, it was the deceiving Shaytan
Come, let us frighten him away

All children cry: Allahu Akbar!
All children cry: Allahu Akbar!
All children cry: Allahu Akbar!

See, there he's sneaking off.

And there was one and two and three little Muslims,
Four, five and six little Muslims,
Seven and eight and nine little Muslims,
Ten little Muslims.

Translated by Esther from Sista:

Parliament member Per-Willy Amundsen (Progress Party, Frp) told Norwegian news agency ANB that this is 'sneak-Islamization'. "We can't accept that such preaching songs sneak into the kindergartens."

Kristin Tveter was an assistant at the Etterstadsletta kindergarten in Oslo , when they sung two Muslim songs two years ago.

She says she tried to protest against these songs, but didn't get anywhere. The committee which decided on this around the Muslim festival of Eid weren't about to change their minds, and this was one of the reasons why she quit. She tells that there are both ethnic Norwegian and immigrant children at the kindergarten.

One song is called "Ten small Muslims" and is about frightening off the Muslim devil by calling on Allah as the great God. The other song is called "Little Muslims" and urges to pray five times a day.

Amundsen says that he's shocked such songs are being sung. It's rather strange that Muslim preaching becomes part of the norm in kindergartens. He says this can't be deliberate and he doubts it's legal.

He points out that the former Minister of Education Øystein Djupedal responded to having a Norwegian song of grace sung in kindergartens.

The Frp's immigration policy spokesperson says that we must be careful with bringing in religion into kindergarten and schools, as it involves the delicate mind of children.

"We must be more capable in integrating children of immigrant background in our Norwegian culture. these Muslim songs are rather a sign of the opposite, that's to say that it's Norwegian children who are trying to integrated in non-Western and Islamic culture. We can't have such things."

Kerstin Berglund of the Oslo Municipality defends the songs and denies it's preaching.

She told ANB that the songs have religious contents, just like Christian songs.

Berglund, who represents the district of Gamle Oslo says that songs of many different cultures and religions are sung in the district. The kindergartens say in their curriculum that they want to cerebrate the festivals of the children who go to kindergarten. She says there are 50 languages and cultures represented in the district.

She says that the songs are one of many means for multicultural educational support. They illustrate the children and family's culture and background identity by marking festivals and national days which are represented in the kindergarten, and illustrate pluralism and encourage multicultural understanding.

Berglund confirms that these songs are still sung in Etterstadsletta kindergarten to celebrate Eid. The kindergarten has just under 30% of children with non-Western background.

Per-Willy Amundsen asks for a more deliberate political attitude towards what happens in immigrant cultures. He says that debate should be handled in such a way that doesn't cause new problems.

"We can't allow Islam to be dominating." He says it is dangerous to let ourselves think that dialogue will solve everything, and that we must have a conscious attitude towards these Islamic forces.

Amundsen says that we can't have different rules for Islam and Christianity. In these songs the children are asked to praise Allah and pray to him five times a day. If there would have been something similar with Christianity, he's certain there would have been reactions to it.

Once more, we see how the multicultural brainwashing begins young, and whilst respect for Islam is compared to that shown for other religions, it always takes that little extra step towards submission.

Norway to Take Palestinian "Refugees"

The Norwegian government feels that its experiments with diversity and cultural enrichment are far from over, particularly that special Muslim variety.

Earlier this week, it was announced that Norway will take 140 "Palestinian" refugees from Iraq - after their Arab, Muslim brothers there subjected them to repeated attacks:

140 Palestinian refugees who fled Iraq have departed Syria for Norway, where they have been granted asylum.

The Palestinians were living in three refugee camps. Al-Walid camp, on the Iraqi side of the Syrian border houses 1,549 refugees. Al-Tanf camp is also located on the border and includes 747 refugees. Al-Hol camp is in Syrian territory and houses 331 Palestinian refugees.

The National Organization for Human Rights in Syria, in a statement called on “the Syrian and the Jordanian governments to allow the entry of Palestinian refugees from Iraq and asked for their protection from persecution, and respect and protection for their human rights.”

In July the UN High Commissioner for Refugees said it planned to move 98 Palestinians from Syria to a temporary “transit camp” in Slovakia.

Romania opened a similar camp last year, and the US, Chile, and several European countries have taken in many of the thousands of Palestinians who were stranded after the start of the US-led occupation of Iraq in 2003.

I suppose one can understand why Norway felt the need to intervene - cultural enrichment has been working out so very well there.

Here is an account of one of the many ways in which diversity is improving Norway, which was formerly one of those boring, peaceful places:

Team from Trøndelag [mid Norway county] attacked police and opposition players

The entire team, including coaches, was expelled from Ekebergsletta [the venue of the tournament]. They roamed the area with wooden rods.

The team Sout IL from Trondheim was expelled from Ekebergsletta for 24 hours after behaving in a very threatening manner today. The team was thrown out of the tournament this morning after a protest revealed cheating on their team roster.

“The team then gathered at the field where their opposite team from yesterday’s match was playing. They entered the field [in the middle of a match I might add — translator] and became a nuisance. They behaved very threatening and rudely,” said station chief Gro Smedsrud to Dagbladet.

Seven police officers was dispatched to the scene, as the two officers who arrived first needed backup. No one was hurt in the incident, which was targeted at the Brazilian team Karanba.

“They [Sout IL] were entirely out of control, and threatened the police with wooden rods. Totally unacceptable,” says station chief Gro Smedsrud.

One person has received criminal charges, and the entire team have been expelled from the venue for 24 hours.

“Many more could have been charged, but the scene was very chaotic,” says Smedrud.

According to the Karanba team’s Norwegian coordinator Tommy Nilsen, a premonition of the row was apparent earlier in the morning.

“Three players followed us into the toilet and shouted bad things at us in the mess hall. Two of them apologized later, but when we exited the mess hall there were a lot of people waiting for us,” says Gleyson (16) of Karanba to Dagbladet. He is one of the players who was followed into the toilets.

Nilsen reported this to the police, and asked them to be vigilant for possible trouble later.

“They’ve been after us all day. This is just very sad. These are people who do not respect anything,” says Karanba coordinator Nilsen to Dagbladet.

When the trouble started during the match, Nilsen was with another player to meet Ole Gunnar Solskjær [Norwegian soccer star]. But Nilsen’s buddy, Ronny Pedersen, was an eyewitness to the scene that unfolded.

“They came walking over the field with wooden rods and yelling “F**k Karanba, f**k Brazil!”. It was a confrontational mood, and we knew they were there to make trouble,” says Pedersen to Dagbladet.

“Their team leader walked behind them and encouraged them. Luckily, the police were at the location, and made them leave,” says Pedersen.

Tommy Nilsen applauds how the police and organizers resolved the situation.

“It was a horrible display of bad manners, and entirely unacceptable. But Norway Cup and the police have handled this very well.”

Both Sout IL teams were earlier today disqualified from the tournament after the jury discovered massive cheating on their team roster.

“The opposition team filed a protest. It was suspected that the team used players from other teams. We checked the player validation for all on the team,” says the head of the jury at Norway Cup, Arnor Dingen, to Dagbladet.

“Our boys’ team lost after extra rounds yesterday, but those we played against were men. As such we filed a protest,” says Nilsen

The jury discovered that many of the players on the team did not have their papers in order. Many had player validation for other teams in Trøndelag, but not for the team they were playing for. In total 10 players [out of 40] were not valid, and in addition 2-3 players were to old for the age-bracket.

“The protest was granted, and our verdict resulted in the team not being allowed to play at Norway Cup. But I was not aware of the trouble that ensued,” says Dingen.

Sout IL Trondheim have two teams in the tournament, G14 and G19 [Boys 14 and Boys 19]. Both teams reached the knock-out phase of the tournament before being disqualified.

Ismail Muhyadin is the idealist behind these two teams, and according to Norway Cup has met many of the boys through his work in Trondheim municipality. Muhyadin earlier received Trondheim municipality’s award for volunteer service for his work with these youth.

He claims that they have done nothing wrong. Muhyadin claims yesterdays match was unfair, and that the umpire failed to halt the game when one Sout player had a nose-bleed.

“That is why the 19-year-olds went to protest today on behalf of their younger comrades on the 14-year-old team. They gathered at the field where Karanba was playing and started some trouble, but when I came and asked them to stop, they stopped at once. They are very nice and good boys who just want to play football and have a good time at Norway Cup, says Muhyadin to Adressa.no [a local newspaper in Trondheim].

Muhyadin was not at the field when the trouble started. He also claims that it was not their fault that the player validation for many of their players was not in order.

“That is such a shame, and I know it sounds as if we’ve done something wrong. But when players, after quitting a club long time ago, are still on their roster, something is wrong. And it is not us that made that mistake. But we are immigrants and maybe have had some problems understanding all the rules, says Muhyadin to the newspaper.

There are more such accounts here, here, here, here and here, many much worse than this one.

Islamic Hegemony in Grønland, Oslo

The following story of an assault on a gay couple walking in an area of Oslo comes from Islam in Europe:

Sunday August 9, a couple was on their way home in the evening after a concert and dinner in central Oslo. They went hand in hand along the road close to where they live in Grønland [Oslo].

"Suddenly a man in his 40s came to us, apologized and asked if we speak Norwegian. Then he asked 'what is that?' while pointing to our hands," says Anders (24) to Dagbladet.

The man of foreign origin then explained what he thought of normal Norwegian values.

He said: "I don't like that. This is a Muslim district."

The couple continued quietly down the street, but shortly after the man came after them and kicked one of them hard from behind. Anders' lover took out his mobile to call the police and the attacker quickly disappeared. The Oslo Police says that case was reported and is under investigation.

Oddleif Sveinungsen of the Oslo police district says that they see it very seriously. "The gay Norwegian couple declared they were walking and met a man of about 40. The man first called to them that "this is a Muslim district, we don't tolerate such here."

What then was the response of the gay couple in question?

Did they talk about the humiliation they suffered, how they were entitled to walk down the street holding hands without being attacked just like everyone else, how this attack was part of a worrying trend?

Not quite:

The gay couple, Anders Rasmushaugen and Michael Eimstad, told Dadgbaldet it was important that this won't be turned into a case of Muslims against gays. "This incident is about one person," says Eimstad.

Indeed. I wonder, had Norwegian people treated them this way, whether or not it would have been about "one person" or the endemic intolerance and injustice present in Norwegian society?

Whilst conservatives made some soothing noises, of most interest is the attitude of the Socialist Left:

Akhtar Chaudry (SV, Socialist Left) is also shocked.

"This is hate crime. We don't tolerate that. We are so strict that that we created a separate act in the criminal code to show that we don't accept this. The police must do a job here. I expect and believe that they will make an effort and get a hold of those involved," says Akhtar Chaudhry (SV), deputy head of the justice committee.

He stresses that Grønland is not a Muslim district.

"This is no Muslim district. It's a multicultural district that in many ways is an Oslo in miniature. Here live black, white and yellow, Muslims and non-Muslims together in a melting pot. But had it been a Muslim district, Norwegian law would still apply here," says Chaudhry, who doesn't think that the attack shows a trend.

"crazy people are everywhere. I have no reason to believe that this is any different. I also spoke with the general secretary of the Islamic Council today. He completely agrees that we don't tolerate this," says Chaudhry.

It's sickening, isn't it?

He can't resist cutting in with his own utopian rubbish about what people on his side of the political fence have wrought on Oslo, once a safe and peaceful city.

Of course, he has to tread a careful line - both gays and Muslims are client groups, statistically, of the socialist Left. If he is seen to support one over the other, one group may take their votes elsewhere.

Indeed, wouldn't it be a shame if the gays were among the first group of natives to wake up to the realities of mass immigration?

It is quite clear that Chaudry's constituents refuse to sing his lullaby, however:

When Muslim Aslam shaid (50) who lives next to Grønlandsleiret (main street) in Oslo sees the picture of the two gay men in Dagbladet he says: "I'm angry when I see the picture of the two holding hands. I don't like it, since it conflicts with our culture."

Aslam is originally from Pakistan, but he's lived in Norway for ten years. He thinks Norwegians should adjust to Grønland stop showing publicly that they're gay or lesbian.

"Grønland is a multicultural society where there are many who don't like gays, and that they shouldn't hold hands. Her we go on the street with wives and children, and it's regrettable to see such things. But what they do at home by themselves, I don't care," says Shaid.

He thinks on the contrary that it's OK that gays show their love on Oslo's Western side, where there are few Muslims.

"There they can do what they want. But here in Grønland they should stop. Ideally homosexuality should be banned to practice in public in this area, but it's not up to us to decide that," says the 50 year old.

This leads to a logical question; what will happen if Muslims become a majority in the whole of Oslo, or even Norway? That may sound fanciful, but it is a comparatively tiny country in terms of population.

It is quite clear that many are only happy to live and let live up to a point, if at all.

Fjordman, writing at Gates of Vienna, has some disturbing details on the transformation of Oslo in just a decade or two from a distinctly Scandinavian city to a multicultural dystopia:

Those who have been following the Scandinavian scene know that Malmö in southern Sweden is the worst town or city in this part of Europe when it comes to “diversity.” This is true, but when it comes to capital cities, I suspect that Oslo, Norway, is currently the worst among the Nordic countries, several orders of magnitude worse than Copenhagen, Denmark or Helsinki, Finland, and at least as bad as Stockholm, Sweden. A visiting Romanian friend even claimed that Oslo is now “worse than Paris.” I haven’t been to Paris for years and cannot confirm whether this is true.

I suspect that Oslo is still not as bad as some of the larger cities such as Amsterdam or London, but it’s catching up fast, accompanied by wild cheers from the intelligentsia and the heavily left-leaning press.

Siv Jensen from the right-wing Progress Party warned against a trend of “stealth-Islamization” recently. She was instantly compared to Nazi Germany by Per-Kristian Foss, an openly gay man from the “conservative” party. Native Norwegians are already a minority in some school districts in Oslo — among them the above-mentioned Grønland area — and will be a minority in their own capital city within a generation or so if the current level of immigration continues, and in the entire country later this century.

When I was born, Norway was still almost 100% white and one of the most ethnically homogeneous countries in the world. If I live a very long life and remain here, I may live to be a minority in my own country. This in a country which gained its independence as late as the twentieth century and which has no colonial history. The “colonial guilt” argument which Multiculturalists often use as a verbal weapon against France, Britain etc. is invalid and irrelevant. Mass immigration is also heavily promoted in Finland, Sweden, and Norway. It’s not because of any “past colonial history”, it’s because we are white. Period.

If you come to Oslo from abroad, you will usually arrive at the Oslo Central Station, which is very close to some of the worst areas in the city, including Grønland. When leaving the railway station and entering the main street, Karl Johan Street, you will be met by crowds of Somalis, Arabs and Kurds hanging around at street corners. There will be a few natives there, among them some drug addicts trying to get their latest shot of heroin or some blond girls acting as girlfriends/all-purpose sluts for members of various immigrant gangs. In the evenings you may also be fortunate enough to be harassed by aggressive Nigerian prostitutes. One recent addition to the Multicultural garden of diversity has been gangs of Gypsy criminals/organized beggars, who traveled to Western Europe instantly when Romania joined the EU. They have managed the almost impossible feat of outscoring even Muslim and African gangs when it comes to theft and petty crime.

This is what you see today if you walk down the main street of central Oslo, along with a large number of pregnant veiled women. It gets slightly better when you approach the Royal Castle, but not too long ago there was a shootout in broad daylight between two rival Pakistani gangs close to the Nobel Peace Center.

P.S.: The current chairman of the city government of Oslo, Erling Lae, is an openly gay man from the “conservative” party Høyre who loves mass immigration. The national leader of the conservative party, Erna Solberg, earlier called for the establishment of an official sharia council in Norway which Muslims can use for family matters. This would be “good for integration.”

Mullah Krekar is a Symptom of European Softness

Recently an American television programme, 'The Wanted', highlighted the case of Mullah Krekar, a known terrorist cleric from Northern Iraq who sought asylum in Norway.

Naturally, the Norwegian authorities will not deport him, lest his human rights be violated - even though the Kurdish authorities have guaranteed he will not face the death penalty if convicted.

The Progress Party have pledged to get rid of him should they gain power in the upcoming Norwegian elections:

How long will the terrorist, mullah Krekar, be able to menace citizens before he is send out of Norway? Although the Kurdish authorities promise that he will not get the death penalty, the Labor Party insists that Krekar will not be deported. The Progress Party believes Krekar should be held in custody until he can be sent out of the country. Norway has been a refuge for terrorists, and even Osama bin Laden would receive protection in Norway. His friends, at least, will stay in Norway. Taliban minister, Abdul Rauf Mohammad, has lived in Norway since 2001. The same men who threw acid in the eyes of the young Afghan girls that wanted to go to school would be allowed to stay in Norway.

Krekar came to Norway as war refugee in 1991. Although he claimed prosecution in Iraq, he has repeatedly visited the country. Kurdish authorities have wished that he’d be extradited on the basis that he has led a terrorist organization called Ansar Al-Islam. The terror organization announced once in a letter that all Christians in Iraq had to get out or they would be killed. Ansar Al-Islam is affiliated with Al Qaida and is allegedly behind the killings of several Kurds civilians.

Norway’s authorities have point blank refused to extradite him, because they fear that Krekar could be sentenced to death. Now, however, TV2 reports that the Kurdish authorities will guarantee the security of the former leader of the Ansar al-Islam. The government guarantees that Krekar will not be subjected to torture or inhuman treatment. The matter should be clear-cut. The Labor Party’s Bjarne Håkon Hanssen, Jens Stoltenberg, and Jonas Gahr Støre have previously stated that Krekar cannot be kicked out before we are able guarantee for his safety.

But no, it is not as easy as it appears. Jonas Gahr Støre does not believe in the Iraq’s regional authorities’ promises. He will fight with tooth and nails that Krekar, who is behind a series of murders and has several times in recent years talked enthusiastically about the murder of western citizens, will stay in Norway, because of the security reasons. I agree with Carl I. Hagen: "All actions of this government suggests that Mullah Krekar’s safety and security comes before the security of the kingdom.”

This is not only a disgrace for Norwya’s immigration policy. But it is also a shame to all those currently serving in Afghanistan and Iraq for peace. It also dishonors those who work either in aid or human rights organizations in Muslim countries. People like Mullah Krekar endangers all that.

The Progress Party believes the TV2’s documentation is good enough for Mullah Krekar to be extradited from Norway. Norway’s immigration and asylum policy should not apply terrorists or people who support the killing of civilians.

Until Krekar can be put on a plane out of Norway, he should be in custody the same manner others in similar situation are being treated. When the Progress Party takes over the government, we will ensure that all necessary documentation will be prepared and Krekar will sit on an airplane on the way home within 100 days.

You'll notice thought that this is not solely about Mullah Krekar.

Whilst British and European troops are fighting and dying in Afghanistan, allegedly keeping us safe, a former Taliban minister and his family are living safely in Norway, on the Norwegian taxpayer.

How can this be right or just?

Meanwhile, here in Britain, it has been revealed that convicted terrorists are living in bail hostels after their release from prison:

At least 20 men suspected of harbouring al-Qaida sympathies and convicted of terrorism offences have been released from British prisons this year, according to probation staff.

The men had reached the two-thirds point of their sentence and therefore qualified for release back into the community, where the majority are being supervised by probation staff as they reside in hostels.

Many have been placed on curfews or placed under strict licence conditions in a bid to ensure they are kept under close supervision. But the revelation that convicted terrorists are being housed in hostels is likely to trigger a national debate on how best the authorities can deal with what is considered by many experts to be a new type of serious offender.

Most of the men released so far were convicted for offences associated with the possession of terrorist material or literature or aiding others who went on to carry out terrorist attacks both in the UK and abroad. The probation union, Napo, claims that nine men convicted for terrorist offences are being housed in hostels in London, two in the Midlands and another four in Yorkshire.

Probation staff say that, although many of those released may pose a real threat, the normal tools used to assess the risk of reoffending are of limited value because of the motivation which led to their crime.

"It is extremely difficult to work with any individual whose criminal behaviour is politically motivated," said Harry Fletcher, assistant general secretary of Napo. "The psychology is totally different from the vast majority of persons convicted of criminal offences whose activity is either acquisitive or, in cases of violence, often pathological."

However, with an estimated 160 people convicted of terrorism offences inspired by al-Qaida currently residing in Britain's jails, there is growing pressure on the authorities to give details of how they intend to deal with convicted terrorists.

While most are considered "minor" offenders, several convicted of more serious offences are due to be released soon. Andrew Rowe was given a seven-and-a-half year sentence after being caught with details of how to fire mortar bombs and secret codes to facilitate terror attacks. He is due to appear before the parole board within weeks.

Raids on his home uncovered a handwritten guide to firing battlefield weapons, videos of the 9/11 atrocities and tapes of Osama bin Laden. He had used the names of specific models of mobile phones as code for words and phrases such as "airline crew", "explosives" and "army base". His socks carried traces of TNT and plastic explosives.

A Ministry of Justice spokeswoman said anyone convicted of terrorist offences and sentenced to more than 12 months' imprisonment would be subject to probation supervision on release from prison.

"They have to adhere to a set of strict conditions and are subject to recall to custody if they breach their conditions or their behaviour indicates that it is no longer safe to allow them to remain in the community," she said. The Home Office has also pledged to deport any convicted terrorists who are foreign nationals.

We should go further; any terrorist should be stripped of their British citizenship and deported. If our security is worth the blood of our troops, then it should be taken far more seriously.

The Joys of Diversity & Cultural Enrichment in Norway

Firstly we have this story, found at Gates of Vienna:

Zylark has translated this article, but notes that the incident was also reported here:

Manhunt for brutal robber

The police suspect a man of assault and robbery of two women on the night before Sunday.

“This is a case we take very seriously. We have had several meetings regarding these two assault-robberies today,” states Police-Sergeant Siri Doksæter at the Fire and Theft department at Bergen Police station.

Two women were assaulted and robbed in the center of Bergen in a two hour interval night to Sunday.

“The first woman walked by the intersection of Kaigaten and Christiesgate whilst talking on her phone. She noticed someone nudging her in the back. Before she could turn around, she received a hard blow to the back, and fell to her knees,” states Doksæter.

The 20-year-old woman lost her cell-phone on the ground.

The perpetrator picked up the phone and ran. The victim did not get a good look at the perp, but he seemed between 20 and 30 years old and looked Eastern European.

The assault happened around 0130.

Around 0330 a woman in her early twenties was on her way home from the center of town. She was talking on her phone on the way home to Nordnes [which strictly speaking is in the center of Bergen, a 10-minute walk from most bars and clubs].

“By the College, she noticed a man walking behind her. She felt a finger in her back, and when she turned, she was hit in the temple so hard that she fell. The perpetrator picked up her phone and vanished. He is described as between 25 and 30 years old with short hair,” states Doksæter.

Due to the MO used in the assaults, the police think the same man is behind both of them.

“This is brutal, and it was done using the exact same procedure. I can not remember any similar episodes, so this is a sad tendency.

Doksæter asks for tips from the public.

“Both girls were alone when the assaults happened, but if anyone saw anything, we ask them to contact the police.”

Meanwhile, the Norwegian police are hoping to make use of a new judicial 'mafia clause' in order to fight the growing problem of Muslim gang crime, particularly a violent gang of thugs known as the 'Young Guns':

The police will crush The Young Guns Muslim gang with the help of the new Mafia indictment. 11 people are accused of everything from the threats with illegal weapons and violence.

"We will soon be out again." Those were the last words the 23-year-old Muslim cheerfully shouted to the Dagbladet’s photographer before the police closed the back door of the police car on the 13 th of May.

He and four other Young Guns members were arrested at a law firm, where they run after a confrontation with several members of the B-gang in front of the court. In the confrontation the 23-year old pointed a gun at four B-gang members to show to them that he was not afraid to shoot them.

The prediction of the 23-year old about coming soon out may not come to fruition, since he has been transferred to prison for previous violations. The two other members of the Young Guns are still in custody.

Now eleven members of the Young Guns, ten men and one woman, are being prosecuted for several serious offenses. They all are being charged under the Criminal Act, Section 60A - the so-called Mafia Paragraph.

The police are trying to present the eleven members of the Young Guns as a group that continuously plan and commit crimes together. Should they be found guilty under the Mafia Paragraph, they risk a double sentence compared to a normal verdict.

Four of the men are accused of bodily harm against two person who would testify against the members of the gang. One was beaten with a telescopic baton and has several stitches. Many of the gang members are also charged for illegal weapons and to have carried a gun in public places. The use of a weapon is part of the Mafia Paragraph.

The Young Guns is Oslo’s oldest gang and since the 90s has competed with the B-gang. The members of the two gangs have shot each others in the streets of Oslo many times. The last confrontation took place in May, and led to the lawsuit against Young Guns member Fuica Alex who was prosecuted for the murder of B-gang leader Ghulam Abbas.

The Young Guns and the B-gang charged at each other in a violent confrontation, which ended with the arrest of the five Young Guns Muslims who had sought refuge in the law firm Feydt and Hamborgstrøm, which is right by the courts.

Six of the accused are also charged for having threatened the same man. They were in the man's apartment. Two of them wore a balaklava and one of them, a 23-year-old man, fired at least two shots, according to the prosecution. The other is charged for threats and having encouraged the 23-year-old to shoot.

Deliberate action

Mr. Eirik Jensen, the head of the Oslo Police gang project, says that they have gathered together several different incidents in the same indictment as a deliberate action.

”Previously, there was no coordinated investigation of such matters, but now we are going to do it. We will send a signal that gang life will lead to tougher punishment,” Jensen told the Dagbladet.

”We have nothing against the people personally, but we no longer consent to what they stand for. As long as they are members of gangs, they will receive this treatment," he said.

The B-gang is today the biggest gang in Oslo. The Young Guns is reduced by internal strife, and several former key members are either imprisoned or have withdrawn completely from the gang life.

According to police, Mohammed "Jeddi" Javed led Young Guns until he was shot and killed on Haugerud in January this year. According to police, it is unclear who actually now leads the gang.

Unrealistic

The members of the Young Guns tell the Dagbladet that they believe it is totally unrealistic that the defendants will actually be convicted under the Mafia Paragraph.
”That is something the police do just to keep some of the boys imprisoned over the summer," says a Muslim man to Dagbladet.

Hopefully a Progress Party government will put an end to Norway's suicidal immigration policies before it is too late.

Hat tip: Gates of Vienna & Counter Jihad News.

Progress Party on the Rise in Norway

The Progress Party, dismissed by the Norwegian political elite as 'far-Right' and shunned in coalitions, is polling its highest ever measure of support among the Norwegian people, at 27%.

Recently, it was announced that immigration to Norway is soaring; last year was a record year in terms of the number of asylum seekers who came, but figures for 2009 are even higher, putting Norway second only to Italy in terms of the number of migrants received:

Compared to other industrialized countries, Norway is almost the first when it comes to increase of the number of asylum seekers from 2007 to 2008 - only beaten by Italy. The trend will continue in 2009.

From 2007 to 2008, the number of asylum seekers in Norway, increased 121 per cent from 6,530 to 14,430. This puts Norway in second place among 50 industrialized countries, only beaten by Italy, which had a growth of 122 percent. Shows a report from the UN refugee council’s (UNHCR) Asylum Trends, writes the Aftenposten.

The Immigration Directorate’s (UDI) half-year figures shows that the increase in asylum influx in Norway continues in 2009. Compared with the first half of 2008, the number of asylum seekers increased 50 percent to just 8,000. In addition, the number of granted asylum cases doubled.

Most countries in Europe, like Norway experienced an increased influx of asylum seekers, but far from an equally strong growth. From 2007 to 2008 Denmark had a growth of 28 percent, approximately 2,400 persons during the year. Sweden had ten times as many applicants as the Danes but the numbers declined by 33 percent from 36,000 to about 24,000.

The Progress Party are coming up with some fairly sensible suggestions about how to deal with this problem, recognising that only 10% of these claimants will be seen as genuine:

The Progress Party of Norway suggest that a Norwegian asylum centre should be established in Africa. The scheme would initially apply to all asylum seekers.

The party’s immigration policy spokesman, Per-Willy Amundsen, says the African asylum center is needed to meet the record high influx of asylum seekers to Norway.

All applicants shall upon arrival in Norway, be flown to the center in Africa. Amundsen told VG that he can foresee exceptions, but that the system initially will apply to all.

”We believe the Ministry of Foreign Affairs should contact the authorities in African countries ,which currently receive Norwegian aid, with a proposal to reaching an agreement to establish asylum in these countries," said Amundsen.

He mentions the countries that receive direct aid from Norway, including Uganda and Tanzania.

“Tanzania is particularly suitable well because it receives much of the direct support, right into the state budget. At the same time, it is a relatively stable country,” says Amundsen.

He expects that this will mean that many asylum seekers will not to come to Norway.

”This concerns applicants who do not have requirements for asylum. We believe that only 10 percent of asylum seekers are entitled to be in Norway based on a strict interpretation of the UN refugee convention. There is very welcome, " he adds.

Obviously this could create an influx of asylum seekers wishing to reach Norway from Africa, but I like the idea that all the African governments propping up their corruption and unsustainable populations with Norwegian cash should have to help Norway in return.

Isn't it sad that thinking from politicians which even touches common sense has to be gasped at and celebrated?

The idea that Norwegian politicians are there to serve Norway and its people first should simply be the normal, accepted view.

Hopefully if the Progress Party do as well as the polls indicate, it will be.

5 Charged over Gang Rape in Norway

A very disturbing story via Gates of Vienna:

Five adolescent boys charged with gang-rape of a young girl

The police in Romerike confirm that they are investigating a severe gang-rape that was reported to have happened on June 28th.

The police were called on the evening of June 28th, and apprehended five young boys. They are charged with the rape of a young girl, as stated to Dagbladet by the acting crime-chief in the Romerike police precinct, Bjørn Arne Tronier.

In consideration for the victim, the crime-chief asks that Dagbladet not disclose where in Romerike in Akerhus [a southeastern Norwegian county, adjacent to our capital, Oslo] the rape took place.

“These are very young people, and we need to protect the victim,” states Tronier.

He confirms that all of the involved are below the age of legal responsibility [in Norway, that is, they are all under the age of 15].

“All of the boys have been questioned after being apprehended, but due to their young age, they are not imprisoned.” Tronier also says that the gang-rape took place indoors in a private residence.

The police are allocating extensive resources to solve the circumstances of the crime.

“The crime is under significant investigation. If I were to characterize it, I’d say it is a very ugly incident,” states Tronier.

Runa Kosberg is the legal representative for the young girl.

“I can confirm that I am the appointed legal counsel for the victim in this proceeding.”

She will not give any further comments.

“Out of consideration of the fact that all involved are very young.”

According to the police, all five boys are of foreign origin. Child Care have been notified for all five young boys.

Sharp Increase in Asylum Seekers Reaching Norway

A translation of a report from VG Norway via Counter Jihad News:

Sharp increase in the number of young asylum seekers. Twice as many applications were given.During the first six months, 8100 asylum seekers registered in Norway.

The number of children who came alone is increasing.

This appears by the latest figures from the Directorate of Immigration (UDI) that VG Nett has been given access to. Figures from the first half of 2009 first presented at a press conference. One of the sharpest increase is in the number of asylum seekers who request to stay in Norway.

By the end of June UDI had received in 8100 applications - 50 percent more than the first half of last year. If the trend continues, the government expects that by year-end total 18,000 asylum applications will be registered, compared with 14,431 last year and about 6,500 in 2007.

The latest figures from the UDI also shows that the proportion of minors under 18 and without caregivers only gets larger and larger. 70 percent of all those who say they are single minors so far this year, are from Afghanistan. [How, exactly does an Afghani kid travel from Afghanistan to Norway?

Deputy Anne Siri Rustad of UDI tells Aftenposten that the need to give asylum seekers a roof over their heads in summer is so great that they are considering to make the use of boats, tents, camps and the civil defense people.

Pakistani Criminal Arfan Bhatti Will Leave Norway Voluntarily

A prolific Pakistani criminal called Arfan Bhatti was one of the first people to be arrested under Norway's anti-terrorism laws, enacted in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

He was acquitted of plotting to attack the U.S. and Israeli embassies in Oslo, as well as opening fire on a synagogue. the synagogue shooting was downgraded from an act of terrorism to 'one of serious vandalism'.

He was jailed for a string of other crimes, however:

Arfan Qadeer Bhatti was born in 1977 in Norway to a family of Pakistani descent and is a Norwegian citizen. Arfan Bhatti was known as a trouble maker already from his early teenage years. He finished high school in Norway and then his parents sent him to relatives in Pakistan in order to distance him from local Norwegian crime gangs he was involved with. When Arfan Bhatti returned back to Norway he quickly integrated on the list of top criminals in the country.

Arfan Bhatti's criminal record in Norway includes hundreds of chapters of extortion, severe violence, drug trafficking and illegal possession and use of firearms. In Norway Arfan Bhatti was connected to an Albanian drug network led by the drug-boss Princ Dobrosi known to the Norwegian police.

Arfan Bhatti was denied entrance to Germany and questioned for 48 hours, in 06/2006, during the football World Cup as a preventive precaution. When he returned to Norway Arfan Bhatti was placed under surveillance by the Norwegian police.

Arfan Bhatti was detained for questioning in 08/2006 by the Norwegian police because of a criminal investigation when shots were fired toward a criminal female reporter of the Norway newspaper Dagsavisen, Ms. Nina Johnsrud, who was in some sort of connection with him, probably as an informant.

Arfan Bhatti's car was bugged and taped while patrolling, with Ibrahim Oezbabacan, around the Jewish Synagogue in Oslo, the Israeli and USA embassies and planning attacks.

On Friday 09/15/2006 in the evening, Arfan Bhatti, with Ibrahim Oezbabacan, fired 13 shots toward the Jewish Synagogue in Oslo. He was arrested three days later, on 09/18/2006 with three other suspects as members of his crime and terror gang.

Bhatti has been released from prison, and must report to the police daily. He has a wife and two young children, but will leave Norway for Pakistan - because his faith in Norwegian justice is shattered, and he fears being arrested at any moment.

Also, unusually for a man who describes himself as 'a boy of the West who took the wrong path into criminality' and someone who 'has no grudge against the U.S. or Israel' - he doesn't want his children growing up influenced by American culture.

If only every case involving criminal immigrants could resolve itself so tidily.

Plan for Attack on Norwegian & Swedish Embassies Foiled in Pakistan

A man carrying two tonnes of explosives has been arrested in the Pakistani capital Islamabad.

Police report that he intended to attack the Norwegian and Swedish embassies because both countries have a presence in Afghanistan.

Initial reports suggest that he may have planned to attack various other European and Western embassies.

I suppose this report is telling, because the Pakistani government has finally recognised that terrorism is a greater existential threat to them than neighbouring India.

Many ordinary Pakistanis are beginning to turn against the terrorists too; The Times reported yesterday that a Taliban commander was shot dead and several of his men burned to death when terrorists killed a number of people in a mosque bombing - then demanded the widows they had just made for 'marriage'.

It was the Taleban’s demand to take the women they had widowed that was the last straw for the residents of Upper Dir.

When the militants arrived in their mountainous corner of northwestern Pakistan in February the locals cautiously welcomed them, thinking they were waging jihad against foreign troops in neighbouring Afghanistan.

Some even joined them, attracted by the five or six pounds a day they paid. Over the next three months, however, Upper Dir’s residents were increasingly angered by the Taleban’s criminal activities and disrespect for local customs, according to residents and Pakistani officials.

In early June elders asked them to leave the five villages they had occupied. The Taleban responded on June 5 with a suicide attack on a local mosque that killed 39 people. The next day they told the elders to give them the women who had been widowed in the attack.

Instead, the elders summoned men from 30 surrounding villages, told them to fetch their weapons (many men in the region own a gun), and launched a “lashkar” — or tribal militia — of more than 1,000 people to drive out the Taleban.

They shot dead the local Taleban leader — who went by the name of Champo — burnt several more to death in the houses that they had occupied, and surrounded the remaining 150 in a mountainside village, where they were still under siege yesterday.

“Don’t call them Taleban because they are gangsters, looters and plunderers,” Omar Rehman, 35, a farmer and member of the lashkar, told The Times.

“The Taleban should be those who are getting religious education peacefully.” Upper Dir’s lashkar is the most dramatic illustration of the public backlash against the Taleban that has accompanied the army’s attack on the militants in the northwestern region of Swat since late April.

What if Norway Had a Muslim Majority?

This is the question which was asked by the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet.

Readers could vote for which statement they agreed with the most:

Hege Storhaug (Sharia will take over)

or

Nazneen Khan-Østrem (nothing will necessarily change).

Some Norwegians (and "Norwegians") feel that the demography debate is in itself racist, and do not wish to participate such a thing.

Many feel that they fear a 'Right-wing backlash' against Muslims and immigrants far more than they fear Sharia law. Educated Norwegians have evidently expressed a desire to leave Norway should immigration-restriction parties come to power.

Some feel that the debate is pointless, and that Muslims will never be a statistical majority.

That doesn't really matter; trends in Oslo suggest it will be a Muslim majority city at some point in the near future.

My own experiences of Britain, Germany and the Netherlands have shown that Muslims do not need to be anywhere near an actual numerical majority for the problems to start; the agitation for Sharia and special concessions, ghettos, no-go zones, racist attacks, preying on infidel women - all of this and more goes on in places where Muslims are a comparatively small minority of the population.

Active secession movements require a slightly larger Muslim population than any European country can currently muster; but the Muslim insistence on realigning foreign policy towards the Muslim world is already very much underway.

All of this aside, the Left and Muslim side of the debate completely ignores the fact that Norway, as a sovereign nation, has the right to restrict immigration in any way it chooses.

Here is the full report on Norway from the excellent Islam in Europe:

The following is a summary of the various opinions, provided by Dagbladet. The original article links to more extensive responses.

Everybody was asked three identical questions:
1. Do you think cities in Noway might have a Muslim majority in the future? If so, how long would it take?
2. What are the most important things you think can change if Norway or areas in Norway have a Muslim majority?
3. What do you think of the Islam-debate in Norwegian society?


This week Norway Statistics came out with new forecasts which estimate the population in Norway to be 6.9 million in 2060. Immigration is the most important reason for the increase. SBB doesn't work meanwhile with forecasts by ethnic or religious group. Several debaters in the Islam debate fear that Muslims will become a majority in various cities in Norway within a decade. It is the higher birthrate among the minorities and continued high immigration which can lead to that. Some speak of "Eurabia" and point to immigrant-stuffed cities such as Rotterdam and Marseilles with their problems. Will Belgistan be next, or maybe the Moorish emirate of Iberia?

Opponents call this a conspiracy theory, an expression of "Islamophobia". Muslims are so different, they claim, fundamentalists are a long way from everybody else, those we speak of have barely been born and we can't suppose that they're be orthodox religious when they grow up.

Will Norway have a Muslim majority? We asked various central debaters to answer the question, and their opinions differ greatly.

Columnist Mohammad Usman Rana thinks the discussion on a Muslim majority is based on myths and prejudices, and adds that Norway in 2060 will have between 4-11% Muslims. He's supported by Islam-researcher Anne Sofie Roald who points out that Muslims are a small minority in Norway, and will continue to be so. Aslak Nore also doubts a Muslim majority.

Spokesperson Hege Storhaug of the HRS think-tank says that they conducted estimates for Oslo. She thinks the capital will have a Muslim majority in 40-50 years. Author Bruce Bawer agrees with her that this will happen, but doesn't know when. Document.no debater Hans Rustad is also most concerned about Oslo.

Yousuf Gilani, a politician for the Liberal Party thinks there can be a Muslim majority in Norwegian cities, just like Abid Q. Raja, but it doesn't worry them. College lecturer Nazneen Khan Østrem rejects the entire presentation of the problem as ridiculous. Associate professor Berit S. Thorbjørnsrud thinks that it's science fiction, and Shoaib Sultan, general secretary in the Islamic Council, agrees.

What will happen in Norway if we have a Muslim majority? Here are the answers of our debaters:

"Islam is in constant development, in 50 years Islam and Norwegian-Muslims will be as much Muslims as today's Christians are in Norway," says Yousuf Gilani, who thinks most Norwegians will just notice more halal food in the shop and more variation in skin color.

Gilani is concerned more about the rise of what he calls the right-wing radical forces which go on the offensive against Muslims.

"The feedback I get from the educated elite in Norway among the minority is that many consider moving from Norway, if there will a lot more right-wing radicalization of the country. This trend appears to be more real in Norway now than what we've experienced in the past."
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"The increase will happen in especially two places: Indre Oslo Øst and Øvre Romerike. Indre Oslo Øst will likely become a ghetto-culture. I assume that a high portion will be Muslims. Elementary schools in Oslo have 39% students of immigrant background. The portion of Muslims is probably high, but how high, I haven't seen any numbers for it, and I believe they aren't available," says Hans Rustad.

If the authorities don't do anything with this development, Rustad believes we'll have a segregated society.

"Then people will see changes in residence patterns, such that those who do not like to live under group pressure from other, move. This will include individual Muslims and other immigrants."
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Aslak Nore, will will publish a book about immigration in the fall, cites social-researcher Erik Kaufmann of Harvard, who discussed what can happen with an increasing Muslim population ('Eurabia?: the Foreign Policy Implications of West Europe's Religious Composition in 2025 and Beyond' (PDF)). He sees two possible outcomes.

"One is violent riots of the type one has seen in England and France. The other is pressure on foreign policy, to prevent support for Israel. Here Norway got a taste during the trouble in January. This appears rather likely. On the long term, Kaufmann is concerned with the day that conserviative right-wing parties in Europe begin to woo Muslims, on religious grounds. The day conservatism will go from being national to becoming a "moral majority". This happened to a high degree in the USA in the latter half of the 20th century. It can also happen in Europe in a few decades. Then it won't be fun to be a homosexual or a religion critic."
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Nazneen Khan Østrem says that a Muslims majority in one city will not necessarily change anything as few Muslims are fanatic Islamists.

"The question carries with it an underlying premise that Muslims represent other values and want a different legal system. This doesn't add up at all. The majority of Muslims in Norway are like most Norwegian. It's time to take this in and stop with scaremongering," says Nazneen Khan Østrem.
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"Just in Oslo we presumably have more than 20 different Muslim communities, which means that Muslims can't be described as one group with a determined goal. Therefore one can't predict the significance of Muslims for political, social or cultural change," says Berit S. Thorbjørnsrud.
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Abid Raja, Liberal Party politician and much more, thinks the question smells of fear of Muslims, but is concerned by preventing the development of parallel societies, expectations that Sharia will be introduced in Norway, ghettos and internal justice if we don't make an effort at integration in the problem areas.
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It's not sharia and FGM that Mohammad Usman Rana fears, but violence against Muslims. He says it can have serious, and in one case - deadly, consequences for Muslims:

"A Norwegian-Muslim father of small children was killed in Nord-Norge in 2008 by a man who had for a while declared a wish "to kill a Muslim". The female head of the Muslim Student Society, Bushra Ishaq, received threats on her mobile phone in the wake of the police hijab debate. Not least, the Equality and Discrimination Ombudsman Beate Gangås reports that it's worse to be a Muslim in Norway in this debate climate. Gangås points for example to reports she got of Muslim children being harassed in the school yard, harassment in the workplace and a Muslim who didn't get to be appraiser due to his faith. We can't have that in Norway. The value of disagreement and debate is priceless, but if the debate becomes so tough and polarized that a vulnerable minority experiences increased discrimination and people creates breeding ground for segregation, then the value of such a debate is wiped out."
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"The European Council has just recently points out that the Norwegian debate is characterized by generalizations and has typical undertones of racism and xenophobia. This I've personally experiences as a debater when I was 'hung' as an Islamist, extremist and fundamentalist in the winter's Islam debate based on my defending standpoint of the right to wear a hijab," says Bushra Ishaq, who says that though she's a Muslims, going to the mountains on Easter and Christmas pudding delight her greatly as all other Norwegians.
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Hege Storhaug sees a future clash with a Muslim majority:

"Then Norway will be subdued by sharia and Muslims will be, per Sharia, the rulers, and other religious groups will get dhimmi-status, that's to say they will have fewer and different legal rights and will have to pay a special tax. Will also have then a religious-fascist and gender-fascist society. Already today 40% of young British Muslims ages 16-24 want a Sharia-led UK. If such anti-democratic forces, who are enemies of the freedom we hold so highly, win over among Europe's strongly increasing young Muslim population, then it's obvious which way Europe's going."
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Anne Sofie Roald believes Muslims in Norway will have a typical "Norwegian" attitude to Islam: equality, democracy and tolerance.

"If Muslims, contrary to all expectation, should become a majority, it's important to understand that most Muslims are so-called 'secular' Muslims who don't practice Islam. Among those who practice, many have a private religious perspective where Islam is practices in the private sphere in the same as many Christians in Norway.
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"One word: Sharia law. And even if there isn't yet a Muslim majority, there are also many in power positions in the country who are keen to sacrifice important freedoms in order to gratify the Sharia-supporters. There was for example frightening to see how many big names agreed with Dag Solstad's repulsive statements on freedom. This is just the beginning," says Bruce Bawer.
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Freelancer and debater Ali Esbati thinks the demography discussion is racist, and doesn't want to participate in such a debate.

Norwegian Human Rights Service Accused of Exploiting Muslim Girls

A Muslim author living in Norway has vociferously criticised the country's Human Rights Service (HRS) for its attitude towards young Muslim girls and social and cultural issues pertaining to their role in Norwegian society.

Amal Aden says that criticism of certain cultural practices is tantamount to a 'campaign to exterminate Islam'.

From Islam in Europe:

Human Rights Service exploits immigrant girls in order to reach their political goals, says author Amal Aden. HRS denies doing anything wrong.

Both the Ministry of Children and Equality and the Ministry of Labor and Social Inclusion held meetings this week regarding the criticism against the organization. Children and Equality minister Anniken Huitfeldt (Labor) is taking the complaints of unethical methods very seriously, reports Klassekampen.

Author Amal Aden is very critical of Human Rights Service. She accuses the organization of turning to reprehensible methods against young Muslim girls. Pressure, threats, manipulation, illegal phone taps and paying sources are some of what the Human Rights Service uses in its work, according to Aden.

"They told me: You'll be our weapon in our war to exterminate Islam," Aden told Klassekampen. In the book "See us" (se oss), which was published last year, she confronted violence and abuse of children, khat and welfare abuse in Somali communities.

Spokesperson Hege Storhaug of Human Rights Service denies all of Aden's claims. In an email to the newspaper Storhaug wrote that the claims are incorrect and that the organization can't control whether somebody accuses them without reason.

She says further that HRS was not invited to a meeting in the ministry. the organization was not informed either of the issue in any other way, she writes.

Aden claims that Hege Storhaug and the organization uses unethical methods in its work. This includes pressuring her to do illegal things.

This includes:

* Young immigrant girls were offered a thousand kroner to say they've been circumcised, or threatened to wear a hijab.

* Hege Storhaug said she had audio recordings of Aden, and threatened that this will be used against her.

* Aden was pressured to get confidential material from the child welfare department.

* She was forced to go 'undercover' to get data, including by pretending that she was going to circumcise her children

* She was also encouraged to pretend that she was 'returning' to Islam to get material from the mosque communities. She says she's never left her religion and that she saw it as insulting that it was taken for granted that she wanted to 'exterminate Islam'.

Aden told Klassekampen: I know I don't look like a Muslim on the outside, because I don't cover myself. But inside I'm Muslim. I see it as very insulting when it's taken for granted that I've left Islam.

"I wrote the book 'Se oss' in order to help Somali children and women. Not to harm the Somali community. On the contrary. I am fond of my community. But sadly there are those who misinterpreted my book as if I oppose my community and my religion."

Klassekampen says that they've tried getting an interview from Hege Storhaug of HRS, but that they only got an email in which she says that the assertions are incorrect and that the organization can't control whether somebody accuses them without reason. She points out the extent to which it is too easy to make such accusations in the media. Nothing is verified before the newspaper is printed.

It's therefore becomes interesting to see who will use this wrong information in the future, from political and economic motives. As regarding those who give information to HRS, they do not want to comment, other then stressing that they uphold the Norwegian press standards, for example in contacts with sources, and they always put basic decency first. For this reason they can neither confirm not deny eventual source information related to working with Amal Aden.

It should also be noticed that it's interesting whether the government or ministry receives such serious information, which is afterward published in the media, without HRS being invited to meet with the authorities or being informed in any other way. They've experienced that before and it strongly reminds them of methods used in countries to which Norway doesn't want to be compared.

HRS welcomes the authorities to visit their office, so they can show documentation which paints a diametrically opposite picture of HRS' work methods and ethical standards.