tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8639708932164880269.post3526957688214364944..comments2024-03-14T10:08:55.488+00:00Comments on The Lambeth Walk: A Semi-detached Home Secretary: Weekly News Round Up, 8th-14th February 2009The 1st Earl of Cromerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14165851377583132629noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8639708932164880269.post-78753641074583333402009-02-16T12:58:00.000+00:002009-02-16T12:58:00.000+00:00Dr. D:I'm glad you asked. I use the term '1st Earl...Dr. D:<BR/><BR/>I'm glad you asked. I use the term '1st Earl of Cromer' because he is the one I admire. His descendants still have the title, and I think today there's a 3rd or 4th.<BR/><BR/>You're right, in Anglican tradition venerable is an Archdeacon's title; however in Catholic tradition it is simply a stage of canonisation.<BR/><BR/>I feel Cromer is venerable for the work he did in Egypt preserving Christian heritage, trying to modernise Coptic Christianity and making sure they were seen as equal citizens.<BR/><BR/>Some say he had little time for the Copts, seeing them as 'too Egyptian', but he certainly shot down any official who tried to lionise the Muslims at their expense.The 1st Earl of Cromerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165851377583132629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8639708932164880269.post-12780377650617323212009-02-16T02:19:00.000+00:002009-02-16T02:19:00.000+00:00Just as a matter of curiosity, how does an Earl, e...Just as a matter of curiosity, how does an Earl, even a 1st Earl, become "venerable"? I'm accustomed to hearing this as a title for an Archdeacon, and we have all heard of the Venerable Bede, but I don't quite understand how an Earl becomes venerable. Would you enlighten me, please?Dr.Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18360786634583725263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8639708932164880269.post-16059082610067835652009-02-16T00:59:00.000+00:002009-02-16T00:59:00.000+00:00An interesting comment. I was, of course, being sa...An interesting comment. I was, of course, being sarcastic; the only plus side to this is the underclass is about the only section of society where indigenous birth rates are fairly stable.<BR/><BR/>However, I don't find anything to like in this scenario. Of course, the usual suspects are out in force; apparently more sex education would solve everything.<BR/><BR/>A lot on the left here criticise the American states which have abstinence-focused sex eduaction, because they have high teen pregnancy rates. But then Britain has the highest teen pregnancy rates in Europe, second highest in the West, and I can assure you from experience we have no shortage of sex education.<BR/><BR/>I think the problem is a lack of responsibility. I mean, the kids know the state will pay to raise their baby, so what do they care?<BR/><BR/>As for your observations on immigrant vs. native behavioural patterns, I'm inclined to agree from personal experience.<BR/><BR/>"Really, how low can a civilized society go?"<BR/><BR/>I fear we're both going to find out. Shame really, because America was my 'escape plan b' after Australia.The 1st Earl of Cromerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165851377583132629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8639708932164880269.post-15440262708790266842009-02-15T21:48:00.000+00:002009-02-15T21:48:00.000+00:00"Just makes you proud to be British, doesn't it?"I..."Just makes you proud to be British, doesn't it?"<BR/><BR/>I have to say, I think you are really grasping at straws to find this source of "national pride." Of course, the blacks in Africa do it all the time, so this just puts the British even with them, I would think.<BR/><BR/>Really, how low can a civilized society go?<BR/><BR/>I think that the values and morals of the immigrants usually are adopted by the native stock, resulting in a lowering of the standards of the natives. In England of fifty to one hundred years ago, this would not have been likely to happen. Today, I think we may see it repeated with some frequency (and in America as well).Dr.Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18360786634583725263noreply@blogger.com